| Foreigner sees hatred among Americans http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2008/10/10/opinion/20160567.txt Friday, October 10, 2008 3:00 AM EDT To the Times: Re: "Protesters, Dems voice their opposition" (Sept. 23). I was among the peace activists in front of the courthouse in Media chanting "No more of the same! Bush, war and McCain!" as the supporters of U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin waited for their "victory" rally to begin. I am outraged at the distasteful comment "keep your legs closed" one man shouted at the Planned Parenthood group and at the vicious personal accusation someone made in calling someone a "pedophile" - never mind that many children were part of the Republican crowd. My friends, this is not an example of teaching civility and respect. I did not escape verbal attacks, either. In fact, I rarely do during our always-peaceful protests as even after 40 years of living in the United States I still have a strong French accent. A woman told me to go back to where I came from and that I should "shut up" because I was not born in America - never mind that I am an American citizen. And as I was holding high a huge U.S Sen. Barack Obama sign, "America's Hope," she added, "Put your arms down, I am smelling you!" My friends, change in Washington must start in every home of America. Call me naive, but I have never seen so much hatred among Americans since I've lived here. Don't we have enough hatred in the world? MONIQUE FRUGIER |
Focus on positive set Obama apart from Palin
Friday, November 21, 2008
By Monique Frugier, Ardmore
http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2008/11/21/opinion/doc492630bdba94b737541586.txt
To the Times:
In “Why Palin matters to Americans,” Kathryn Lopez asks, “We’ll never know what could have been in a straight-
on Obama vs. Palin contest.”
Poor Ms. Lopez cannot accept the fact that it is because of Palin that many conservative Republicans voted for
Obama! But I do agree with Ms. Lopez that Sarah Palin offered something different than Obama, much
different: She incited hatred in her rallies (remember “Kill him” and “Head off!” or the chant of “John McCain, not
Hussein” in Florida and in Pa?). She lied (and Ms. Lopez is supporting her lies) when she said Obama was
“palling around with terrorists,” suggesting Obama and Bill Ayers were friends. Palin offered many Swiftboat-like
attacks against Obama because she had nothing to offer but her charm (sic) and her child born with Down
syndrome, whom she carried as a prop everywhere she went, her way to make sure no one forgets she is
against abortion.
All of this and more, while Obama was consistently speaking about his plan to build up our economy and giving
us hope for a better America. And that was really what mattered to Americans
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Below is a "sound off" on my letter! (sic!)
http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2008/11/26/opinion/doc492d5577118f5220303084.txt
SHOW SARAH SOME HEART
I have to call about the letter in the editorial section Nov. 21 from Monique Frugier of Ardmore. She stated that
Sarah Palin did nothing but pose with her child that was born with Down syndrome and claimed she carried the
child around like a prop. To me, that was the sickest thing I heard. This woman needs to forget who she voted
for and check her heart.
Friday, November 21, 2008
By Monique Frugier, Ardmore
http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2008/11/21/opinion/doc492630bdba94b737541586.txt
To the Times:
In “Why Palin matters to Americans,” Kathryn Lopez asks, “We’ll never know what could have been in a straight-
on Obama vs. Palin contest.”
Poor Ms. Lopez cannot accept the fact that it is because of Palin that many conservative Republicans voted for
Obama! But I do agree with Ms. Lopez that Sarah Palin offered something different than Obama, much
different: She incited hatred in her rallies (remember “Kill him” and “Head off!” or the chant of “John McCain, not
Hussein” in Florida and in Pa?). She lied (and Ms. Lopez is supporting her lies) when she said Obama was
“palling around with terrorists,” suggesting Obama and Bill Ayers were friends. Palin offered many Swiftboat-like
attacks against Obama because she had nothing to offer but her charm (sic) and her child born with Down
syndrome, whom she carried as a prop everywhere she went, her way to make sure no one forgets she is
against abortion.
All of this and more, while Obama was consistently speaking about his plan to build up our economy and giving
us hope for a better America. And that was really what mattered to Americans
*****************************************************************************************************
Below is a "sound off" on my letter! (sic!)
http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2008/11/26/opinion/doc492d5577118f5220303084.txt
SHOW SARAH SOME HEART
I have to call about the letter in the editorial section Nov. 21 from Monique Frugier of Ardmore. She stated that
Sarah Palin did nothing but pose with her child that was born with Down syndrome and claimed she carried the
child around like a prop. To me, that was the sickest thing I heard. This woman needs to forget who she voted
for and check her heart.
- Published in the New York Times, April 11, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/11/opinion/l11gay.html?_r=1&ref=opinion
To the Editor:
Brian Brown of the National Organization for Marriage was right in saying, when the Vermont
Legislature backed gay marriage, that there was a “palpable sense that something has changed.” But
when he said “it’s a bad day for the country,” I could not disagree more. Since when is equality for all
bad for America?
Monique Frugier
Ardmore, Pa., April 8, 2009
- PUBLISHED IN THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER (June, 10th 2009) :
- http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion/47504292.html?viewAll=y
Funding war, but not health care
In "Public health plan draws GOP fire" on Friday, I read, "Opponents say private insurers could not
compete with a public plan that did not have to make a profit."
When our elected officials have no problem funding a war of choice at the expense of taxpayers, yet
cannot agree on providing public health care, they are sending the message that health care is not a
basic need, but a commodity.
It just tells me that they are not interested in our well-being, but rather in supporting a private sector
that pours money into their political campaigns.
Monique Frugier
Ardmore
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/opinion/20090827_Letters__Political_hysteria__Part_II.html
Letters: Political hysteria, Part II
Philadelphia Daily News, August 27, 2009
IWONDER why Christine Flowers ("Political Hysteria a Two-way Street") recognizes that President Obama
is "constitutionally qualified to hold office," yet focuses only on the fact that "He's the son of a U.S. citizen
mother." Mr. Obama was also born in the U.S.
Speaking about how liberals behaved during the Bush administration (the worst eight years of my life), if
some depicted Mr. Bush as Hitler, it wasn't what I did, but I will not apologize for calling him a murderer -
unless Ms. Flowers can come up with a better word for someone who bombed a country and sent our
own to die while looking for WMD that were never there!
GOP Sen. Jim DeMint, promoting his book "Saving Freedom" at the National Press Club, said that under
Obama, America is like Germany before World War II. What does Ms. Flowers say about that?
And the open-carry law in Arizona was not the reason that right-wingers showed up with weapons at a
town-hall meeting.
Such a display of intimidation and bad taste occurred during many McCain-Palin rallies. Flowers voted for
the candidates who didn't condemn this open threat on Obama's life. Her interpretation of Howard Dean's
statement is correct: "If you are a conservative, there's blood in your eye."
Monique Frugier, Ardmore
PS: If you have not read what I was responding to, here it is:
By Christine M. Flowers
Philadelphia Daily News
ENOUGH already.
Barack Obama, for all his flaws, isn't barred from being president because of a circumstance of birth.
He's the son of a U.S. citizen mother and, whether born in Hawaii, Kenya or a manger in Bethlehem, is
constitutionally qualified to hold this office.
I didn't vote for him. And I disagree with him, which puts me at odds right now with more than half the
population. But he's my president for the next 3 1/2 years.
So I wish the people who insist on pursuing this issue (led by the fearless Philip Berg, Esq.) would cease
and desist. As Ann Coulter noted a few weeks ago in a column that caused her to be burned in
blogosphere effigy, there are a lot of things to criticize about President Obama and his liberal minions, so
focusing on a marginal matter does nothing more than allow left-wing critics to paint conservatives as
inhabitants of what one local journalist called "Bizarro Nation."
But liberals don't really need an excuse to paint conservatives as refugees from the asylum for religious
fanatics, racists, domestic terrorists and presidential assassins.
Take Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.). The Senate majority leader recently described protesters at town hall
meetings as "evil mongers." He and fellow traveler Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) seem to believe that
people who ask legitimate if impassioned questions about the health-care monolith the administration
wants to unload on the public are horrible human beings. (The human part is probably negotiable.)
San Fran Nan did her bit to defame the many Americans who don't agree with her agenda when she called
the tea party demonstrations "Astroturf" - when it's more like a grass-roots groundswell of anger and
frustration against the stimulus.
The House speaker maligned people who are doing nothing more than exercising their First Amendment
rights.
Yes, some clearly stepped over the line throwing around words like "Nazi" and carrying posters of Obama
with a teeny mustache. But while the MSNBC squawkers would love everyone to believe that the
deranged few represent all town hall participants, they should be reminded of all those who spent eight
years also likening President Bush to Hitler and Saddam Hussein. (Just check out the archives in the
dank, smelly recesses of Daily Kos, Huffington Post and MoveOn.)
So it's quite convenient when a few radical nonentities start screaming at the top of their lungs because
it gives the Reids and the Pelosis and the Barney Franks carte blanche to sniff at the very legitimate
criticism of health care reform with a sneering "what do you expect from their kind?"
IF YOU HAVE an "us vs. them" view of the world, don't be surprised when your political opponents have
one, too. Remember the unguarded moment when candidate Obama, in front of a friendly Frisco crowd,
talked about the "bitter" people clinging to their guns and religion?
Speaking of guns, a man appeared at a recent town hall in Phoenix with an assault rifle on his shoulder.
It probably wasn't the savviest move, given the political climate. It's also intimidating, in bad taste and
completely irrelevant to the health care debate. But it was completely legal, since Arizona has an open
carry law.
Of course, those who think the Second Amendment is just a suggestion and not a constitutional right
were appalled at this development.
And the hysteria was only fed when Howard Dean, he of the coyote wail, said, "The Republicans, they
have no interest in this bill. They're using the 1994 playbook. Let's kill the bill and kill the president."
Dean was ostensibly attacking the congressional GOP, not the average Joe or Josie who shows up at the
town halls. But the implication was unmistakable: If you're a conservative, there's blood in your eye.
"Progressives" like Dean like to demonize legitimate opponents of this administration's clearly debatable
policies by calling them "evil" and homicidal, verging on being assassins.
Add that to the fact we're stupid or, as one person called me in a recent e-mail, "retarded," and you have
a perfect example of why Obama's biggest problem isn't where he was born.
It's where he and some of his political allies are going.
Christine M. Flowers is a lawyer.
E-mail cflowers1961@yahoo.com.
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/opinion/20090821_Christine_M__Flowers__Political_hysteria_a_two-
way_street.html
Philadelphia Daily News, August 27, 2009
IWONDER why Christine Flowers ("Political Hysteria a Two-way Street") recognizes that President Obama
is "constitutionally qualified to hold office," yet focuses only on the fact that "He's the son of a U.S. citizen
mother." Mr. Obama was also born in the U.S.
Speaking about how liberals behaved during the Bush administration (the worst eight years of my life), if
some depicted Mr. Bush as Hitler, it wasn't what I did, but I will not apologize for calling him a murderer -
unless Ms. Flowers can come up with a better word for someone who bombed a country and sent our
own to die while looking for WMD that were never there!
GOP Sen. Jim DeMint, promoting his book "Saving Freedom" at the National Press Club, said that under
Obama, America is like Germany before World War II. What does Ms. Flowers say about that?
And the open-carry law in Arizona was not the reason that right-wingers showed up with weapons at a
town-hall meeting.
Such a display of intimidation and bad taste occurred during many McCain-Palin rallies. Flowers voted for
the candidates who didn't condemn this open threat on Obama's life. Her interpretation of Howard Dean's
statement is correct: "If you are a conservative, there's blood in your eye."
Monique Frugier, Ardmore
PS: If you have not read what I was responding to, here it is:
By Christine M. Flowers
Philadelphia Daily News
ENOUGH already.
Barack Obama, for all his flaws, isn't barred from being president because of a circumstance of birth.
He's the son of a U.S. citizen mother and, whether born in Hawaii, Kenya or a manger in Bethlehem, is
constitutionally qualified to hold this office.
I didn't vote for him. And I disagree with him, which puts me at odds right now with more than half the
population. But he's my president for the next 3 1/2 years.
So I wish the people who insist on pursuing this issue (led by the fearless Philip Berg, Esq.) would cease
and desist. As Ann Coulter noted a few weeks ago in a column that caused her to be burned in
blogosphere effigy, there are a lot of things to criticize about President Obama and his liberal minions, so
focusing on a marginal matter does nothing more than allow left-wing critics to paint conservatives as
inhabitants of what one local journalist called "Bizarro Nation."
But liberals don't really need an excuse to paint conservatives as refugees from the asylum for religious
fanatics, racists, domestic terrorists and presidential assassins.
Take Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.). The Senate majority leader recently described protesters at town hall
meetings as "evil mongers." He and fellow traveler Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) seem to believe that
people who ask legitimate if impassioned questions about the health-care monolith the administration
wants to unload on the public are horrible human beings. (The human part is probably negotiable.)
San Fran Nan did her bit to defame the many Americans who don't agree with her agenda when she called
the tea party demonstrations "Astroturf" - when it's more like a grass-roots groundswell of anger and
frustration against the stimulus.
The House speaker maligned people who are doing nothing more than exercising their First Amendment
rights.
Yes, some clearly stepped over the line throwing around words like "Nazi" and carrying posters of Obama
with a teeny mustache. But while the MSNBC squawkers would love everyone to believe that the
deranged few represent all town hall participants, they should be reminded of all those who spent eight
years also likening President Bush to Hitler and Saddam Hussein. (Just check out the archives in the
dank, smelly recesses of Daily Kos, Huffington Post and MoveOn.)
So it's quite convenient when a few radical nonentities start screaming at the top of their lungs because
it gives the Reids and the Pelosis and the Barney Franks carte blanche to sniff at the very legitimate
criticism of health care reform with a sneering "what do you expect from their kind?"
IF YOU HAVE an "us vs. them" view of the world, don't be surprised when your political opponents have
one, too. Remember the unguarded moment when candidate Obama, in front of a friendly Frisco crowd,
talked about the "bitter" people clinging to their guns and religion?
Speaking of guns, a man appeared at a recent town hall in Phoenix with an assault rifle on his shoulder.
It probably wasn't the savviest move, given the political climate. It's also intimidating, in bad taste and
completely irrelevant to the health care debate. But it was completely legal, since Arizona has an open
carry law.
Of course, those who think the Second Amendment is just a suggestion and not a constitutional right
were appalled at this development.
And the hysteria was only fed when Howard Dean, he of the coyote wail, said, "The Republicans, they
have no interest in this bill. They're using the 1994 playbook. Let's kill the bill and kill the president."
Dean was ostensibly attacking the congressional GOP, not the average Joe or Josie who shows up at the
town halls. But the implication was unmistakable: If you're a conservative, there's blood in your eye.
"Progressives" like Dean like to demonize legitimate opponents of this administration's clearly debatable
policies by calling them "evil" and homicidal, verging on being assassins.
Add that to the fact we're stupid or, as one person called me in a recent e-mail, "retarded," and you have
a perfect example of why Obama's biggest problem isn't where he was born.
It's where he and some of his political allies are going.
Christine M. Flowers is a lawyer.
E-mail cflowers1961@yahoo.com.
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/opinion/20090821_Christine_M__Flowers__Political_hysteria_a_two-
way_street.html